Login to PayPal to add your account as a payment method. And it is convenient for the buyer and profitable for the seller. You want to put it in your store but it obviously needs some work to make it marketable. They simply do not get the idea that Turbosquid is just another reseller for the real product developers, and Turbosquid management and "rules" promote exactly that. In short I propose an integration of global search ore collections made by designers. Turbosquid.com4. It certainly is an interesting read all together, thanks for documenting it so well and make the whole thing public, although I hope you don't stay embarked on a power struggle whit Ts management. - Are you interested in just some quick cash grabs and extras here and there while you can, or would you like to be able to contribute to a fair market where you can make a living out of your passion? because CGTrader team quickly investigate and decided to remove the bad Feeback. The classic idea of exclusivity, division and concealment as a strategy to get to a monopolistic position is bad for the industry and everyone is coming to the realization how bad it rely is. Also could you elaborate on the search and going backwards issue? I think that they keep the 3D models as a curtsey only or to serve as samples that could at a later date be turned into prints. As we think that CGtrader holds the best core for these kind of improvements, I would like to hear the opinion of Marius or any other CGtrader representative about the ideas recently proposed in this forum, specially: I don't know if that is still the case ( and I have no desire to check ) but that is advertising that is hard to beat. Thanks again guys, and let us know if you have any further comments or questions. If any of you think this is a show of strength from Matt Wisdom and his Corporate brother Andy, think twice. Be very wary when the artist is from India or other similar countries. Large studios with "turbosquid" collaborate very limitedly. CGTrader vs Turbosquid | CGTrader No overt similarites in armor designs, guns, vehicles, naming- nothing. A own store where you can fill your offers with stuff found in the large pool would account for a thumbs up for the people hoes products get placed in those stores. If you have any questions about these items before you purchase, please contact us at https://support.turbosquid.com/ TS has more sales because : So if you think about that when we try selling just 3D models we are actually loosing a great deal of the market. Part of it is because they don't want to get scammed. My initial stance on this was, ok fine then my Ts account can stay up for those few that seemingly do not know anything ells outside of Ts. You must create a huge hype and create things that are unique and that connect with people. "don't you think that corporate client would rather choose to get support from team of profesionals that are available 24/7, than from unknown person, who might respond with big delay or not respon at all?". A: TurboS*swearword-here* will start to DOWNTICK PRICES to match them to "other selling sites" on customer complaint, so I will remove every model they demand for down-adjustment, and I'm sure I won't be alone in this. How about Negotiated price? To bad this place is ridiculously expensive, you only get 33% of your sales. My sales are not still on par with TS, but I haven't published new models for quite some time, because I only have time to create models to enter challenges from time to time. Is the same for me as everyone else. An important factor for many buyers is the possibility of cash transactions in the system WebMoney. They can present the model screenshots straight from their helpdesk and ensure the client is not being screwed? TS staff do their best and is not responsible for the strategic choice of TS Turbosquid has too many models You are clearly one of the professional buyers who doesn't take advantage of the system but there are so many out there who do that and 3D sites are beginning to try to safe guard their artist's work by not making it so easy to just get everything you want for free. just share your links (: I like both but prefer cgtrader all day. There are currently no models in your cart. With the support of a strong community we can get this thing going, don't worry about that. Let me explain - I like the look of the models here, but the site is even designed so end users, like me, can't even download more that 10 "free" items unless they've uploaded models of their own, written tutorials, posted topics to the forum (which is difficult if you're not an actual modeler) and/or jumped through about 1,500 other ridiculous hoops to get enough "reputation" points. You are right IterateCGI it would be terrible for the photo realistic 3D models however if you think about it not that many 3D artists create things in that style and in some cases are capable of doing that especially some of the newbies. google3 As every site takes a small cut from the sales of a model. Unless you have a huge ass :) You can not keep all aspects of these markets covered, so you will only be average on all of them or even worse. I'm just an end-user, one of the people you guys sell to, and the site is a large part of the issue, in multiple ways. Full collections of objects for 12 bucks is NOT okay. I am huge fan of the CGT team because they really try hard to make us happy. No matter how many 3D models you need, we'll take care of it. Say you happen to be a great render and lighting specialist but not so well a modeler, you see this nice models that have potential but the presentation is very bad (from good modeler with no render skills). Search is terrible, and lost if you have to go backwards a page. Beautifully put IterateCGI, let's hope it is signal for more than just Tubro's downfall, but hopefully the downfall of treating 3D creators like shit. Well, after a long search, I found a negative point from CGTrader compared to TS. f9acb067-ba84-4d38-8a65-8d3c4249a700Zoom.jpg httpswww.turbosquid.com3d-modelsfemale-rigged-3d-model1041167 --GENERAL-- This is hight quality female model with animation friendly topology. At some point in the past both Turbosquid and The3DStudio had to get through a huge cleansing of their site and removed thousands of objects that were hampering their credibility. You can change your subscription preferences at any time in the account settings. There is a lamp that looks pretty cool (Gervasoni Bolla Floor light), and is supposedly free. What insane kind of practice is that, who owns the work then? It needs to be obvious where to go if you want one or the other. You have insufficient credit to complete your purchase. I think I like the another item the modeler has created (Modern Villa), but that item is $40. Care to share your time machine? I imagine a totally different mentality is going on in the Ts room, where top talents probably just like to leave the building because a few individuals like to keep things in check (you know like in the old top down pyramidal structured way). Thanks for dropping by and great news about an eventual homepage re-design. But at the same time they require all rights to the model, and the model is removed from sale at all sites. I do not know if community-policing has helped other sites keep their products better organized. However, the use is allowed if the MMO is a closed MMO, like World of Warcraft. So good luck "shopping elsewhere" dear customer, this is turning into a monopoly slaughterhouse and a 3D warzone. - CGTrader pays immediately; TS waits until the end of the month. This conversation has me glued to my monitor, all very well spoken and nailed down to the core. TurboSquid Member Services, I'm a first time seller (+-2 Months). You have insufficient credit to complete your purchase. [quote]2. Besides how about your right to fair trade? For example, I ran into this this morning. Maybe you think my words are disproportionate or naive but mark them now. [url=http://www.google.com]google2[/url] If that is the case then better not to become exclusive! But we forgot about the buyers. Matt Wisdom describes Turbosquid as "a sort of Ebay" when in fact Turbosquid works exactly the same as classic "supermarket providers" where the reseller profits the most from the producers by keeping them totally apart from the customers. Just condemn this type of fear tactics right-away and start supporting better organizations. Founded in 2000, Turbosquid has championed growth in the 3D space through partnerships with leaders in the industry. this issue frequently occurs when a seller wants to break a competitor. Sales dropped to almost nothing. When I asked why they don' want pay for that they have suspended my products ( 428) products they did not say anything after. According to me ,in the future, more a 3DMarketplace will be open more it will take to success. When you just start out you have to price your models at 1 dollar or give them away for free but the second you start selling well they take your models offline and force you to raise your prices Once you raise your prices nobody buys and you are back to square 1. I started uploading some of my items to cg trader to see if it generated any income but as I have 70+ items and 0 sales I have decided to stop. Hi guys, thanks so much for your very valuable comments, they are much appreciated and we are very happy to work with you in order to make CGTrader the best place for 3D designers! The "crap models", "under-priced models" issue is a very sensitive topic that should be discussed. In other words as an artist in TS you are not so well protected, as it's here at CGT. It is pretty difficult to find what you want but if you are only looking for free models then CGTrader's search engine is far better than Turbosquid. This used to be the case in TS as well, but the issue is being solved, this will have to happen here on CGTrader as well. Site issues? By registering you confirm that you have read and accept ourTerms of Use. Yeah nasty stuff, but hey, I better shut up because I'm one of the hypocrites that keeps supporting that place by having my work on it. Well, unless I can verify the quality of the model I'm not going to pay for most things. Turbosquid has a bot spying cgtrader prices. Selling 3D models on Ebay or Amazon would probably generate problems? - CGTrader pays a LOT more than TS; TS *keeps* 60% unless you sell exclusively on their site and join their "Squid Guild". Then there is the stupid "reputation" point issue. With only a few days on CG trader, i can already see it is miles ahead of turbosquid. - It's much easier to upload products here than at TS. I experienced this on other topics like the challenges, where CGT team took some ideas into consideration and applied some of them. If a model you like does not have a suitable file format, be sure to see whether the designer offers free file conversions for the model. You can enter multiple email addresses separated by commas, Thank you for shopping at TurboSquid. This use is prohibited if the virtual world-type is an open MMO, like Second Life. @captainmarlowe Thanks a lot for a lot of valid points regarding search and categorization! Very soon there will be robots that can scan objects faster than any modeler can model them and then reproduce a print almost instantly in 10 to 30 years 3D jobs will be irrelevant but until then someone needs to really bring CGtrader to the big markets. Checkmate is the only good thing Turbosquid has left to offer. My initial idea was that Ts had some clients that do not know anything outside of Ts. http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/cgtrader.com, https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/exterior/landmark/notre-dame-de-paris-cathedral-61d97afb1b1a62861673c23f15b75c12, https://www.facebook.com/ActiveKetoGummiesAustraliaWebsite. It's like if shapeways.com will start selling classic "cg" models. @Urecky, while i'm agree with you in general, let me argue on some specific points. Yes, @limonadinis, I agree with you. I think that the ones that do come here to buy CG models might not return if they get fed up while searching for the right one. Rigged Female 3D Models | CGTrader Offering customers best prices on TurboSquid is mandatory for all artists publishing on TurboSquid. This site is bloated with 3D print ready models, crap models and "adult content / i cant see it". 3D is great for creating things that can restore old products. Because of its design and trade/royalty system, CGTrader seems better and more advantageous, but at the end of the day, I get much more income from Turbosquid and The3Dstudio. Don't know if it's already mentioned in this thread, but in TS you have a refund system, when customer buyed your product has ability to bring back his money and it'll subracted from your earnings, if he doesn't like a model for some reason. My response was, not going to do that, its my work I decide the price. and we lived the evolution of Turbosquid from being a pioneer of the 3D assets market working alongside the real content developers to become a typical corporation with financial backing from angel investors that only cares about financial results and is trying to strive the 3D market towards a monopoly where they can control both the producers and the customers, where acting as just a middleman gets Turbosquid the most profit from both. CGTrader has the better platform from my point of view, better rates if i remember correct. https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/exterior/landmark/notre-dame-de-paris-cathedral-61d97afb1b1a62861673c23f15b75c12, All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others. The claim Turbosquid made was that it infringed on Games Workshop IPs. Another point in favor cgtrader is that the royalties and buy a model possible in the payment system WebMoney. I'm just an end-user, one of the people you guys sell to, and the site is a large part of the issue, in multiple ways. I have always been amazed at how TS can pull off their selling stunt, I've got better stuff AND cheaper on here than on TS but the sales over there totally dominate. However, probably allot of us silently disagree on how we are treated as artist on places like Ts. In other countries like China film production is far better funded so perhaps CGTrader could try opening it's doors to Hong Kong film studios etc Japan is also far better funded and in fact Turbosquid is also selling models on the Japanese market. But this is perhaps the only plus turbosquid. Being an artist himself makes a huge difference in this regard. Cgtrader cannot compare to certain 3d markets. CGtrader.com3. It always depends on how you look at this industry from your point of view: - Are you into this market trying to make a living out of it? for someone that is a little more unique. It is also wise to invest in good ideas that are future proof. The very best thing I find on CGT is the disponibility of the team. Contact your Shutterstock Customer Success Manager, + blend c4d xsi ma lwo 3ds dae dxf fbx obj X, + c4d unitypackage upk max ma c4d max ma fbx max, $10,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), Uncapped Legal Protection (Indemnification), $1,000,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), $250,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification). At the time my CGt account was not performing so well and it enforced that belief (it was probably due to longer presence and better position on Ts and new on CGt). But now, I'm exploring a new platform which is Sketchfab. Thor (Rig) for Maya 15. So then people can actually customize and make cool toys and sell them on there. All that time that we didn't have to spent dealing with Turbosquid bad support went to more time for artistic work. ;). In fact, 61% comes out against 40%, since the paypal commission on cgtrader is borne by the seller, the site pays commission on turbosquid. Especially if the buyer asks to change something in the configuration of models or to clarify details. I understand CGtrader's management don't want to bet on one horse but it probable lives the two horses crippled in this case. Turbosquid bites the hands that feed them: Brittney Briere, Sep 18, 09:53 SST: But hey thats your call, That's sad, but true. although, the 3d printing industry is growing rapidly :D. I have to agree. What's lacking? They should make more effort to advertise. So my own experience on sales is of little value. They also have multiple sellers selling the same products so that it is easier for people to avoid people paying for shipping in their country. Also, trying to find an item that I already saw through the search is near impossible. Imagine how much resorces and efforts are used by those clowns for this greedy Best price quality nonsense. It sells almost nothing, except, perhaps, with very low prices. In fact, I had taken deliberate steps to ensure that I included no content in my designs that could even be construed as overlap. Noise Treshold: What that means is that customers have the illusion of it being the best site out there even if the quality of the products is way below CGTrader. If I compare him with the founder of Ts, then it becomes clear to me we have a completely different relationship. Contact your Shutterstock Customer Success Manager, $10,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), Uncapped Legal Protection (Indemnification), $1,000,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), $250,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification). They bring answers to your problems or requests quite fast and in a very convivial way. Hi adentonclark, @IndieArt : So you definitively think that CGtrader's "change of focus" to 3D print sunk your sales? Then someone from cgtrader decided that he likes 3dprinting sooo much. It's sad cgtrader promote only printing models and forget about regular models. Ps. I can easily imagine that serious clients who value their time very high, might choose TS over CGT without second thought. According to TS "Marmoset Toolbag's watermark" is an overlay and a no no. It would be great to have more of your feedback so we could make it better for buyers. Hey there, Due to its royalty politic and complex registration process, I've finally stopped selling 3D models on TS. However, I will agree that sales here aren't as good as TS. However, fear of losing sales kept me both on Ts and CGt for long time (not liked it). Ebay it's ALL about direct seller/customer relationship. Like time spent on searching models or ability to get profesional support 24/7. Same for me, here. Yes. It is always very reassuring to know that our opinions are taken into account. I can't download that lamp and see it's quality myself - so why would I purchase anything from the creator when I don't know if I'll be satisfied? 3. But they can still contact the artist for fixing issues directly here on CGTrader. If CGT wants to play big and attract high quality traffic and designers/buyers, it has to invite the sellers to opt for a more mature approach in my humble opinion. Hopefully that would make squids to react. IMHO that is main area where CGT must up their game significantly. I think CG Trader should remain working with printing, however, it's main concern should be CG :D, I would opt for a system that integrates different stores each with its own label/trademark placed under one common trademark (for sake of organization and readability), CGtraders main trademark would then function as a placeholder/main hub for many different sub stores. Typically, large corporate buyers, they find a way to contact me even and on TS and make an offer on a specific project.
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