Some of the biggest anti-Semites have been Jewish! BTW My Grandmother the mother of 12 and Grandmother of 33+ and a bunch of great grand kids was the most Christian woman I ever knew and she was a devout Catholic so was Mother Teresa for that matter. This is a Christian blog? My point was that I do not put myself in a position to be tempted. Put your trust in the One who will not fail you. Name one of these men you refer to, the men Im asking on this thread cant and wont answer the question, if theyve ever viewed pornography or thought of someone else while theyre with their wives, that should tell you something, and the women Ive been with enjoyed our intimacy as much as I did, we enriched each other and learned from each other and brought each other boundless pleasure, so I dont know what youre talking about, discarded women and wrecked lives? What did we get when we were lied about, shunned by others who were too loyal to even ask what happened to us and raked over the hot coals by him and his leadership? I learned a long time ago that the first look is not sin its just temptation. He teaches clearly that one can take the Mark of the beast and still be redeemed. Coddington was buried at Rose Hills Memorial Park in Whittier, California. Read slowly. Coy is guilty. Gary, if you have an issue you can email me . What Happened to Aunt Diane? Shooting the messenger is rather common in the initial hours of disbelief. The Asst Pastors are pretty weak with the exception of Bill Schott BUT he is a teacher and not evangelical. I completely agree with Michelle @175. So they began to buy out failing churches in the area and use large screens. She told Payne she was "moving tomorrow [overseas] on a mission trip with the church, and asked if it was possible to destroy any record of [her] abuse," the detective wrote in a closeout memo. With Bob Coy I immediately think of healing for him and the family as I didnt consider him as dangerous to the body. I would imagine if Chuck Smith were around he would probably have Coy restored in about 3 months. http://watch-unto-prayer.org/rapture.html#propaganda, Inasmuch, therefore, as the opinions of certain [orthodox persons] are derived from heretical discourses, they are both ignorant of Gods dispensations, and of the mystery of the resurrection of the just, and of the [earthly] kingdom which is the commencement of incorruption, by means of which kingdom those who shall be worthy are accustomed gradually to partake of the divine nature (capere Deum ); and it is necessary to tell them respecting those things, that it behoves the righteous first to receive the promise of the inheritance which God promised to the fathers, and to reign in it, when they rise again to behold God in this creation which is renovated, and that the judgment should take place afterwards. (Against Heresies, Book V, 30.4). Why does the emphasis these days seem to be on altering The Message in a manner which appeals to the culture? Daniel uses the 7s in its proper biblical sense to mean a completeness of time this is not a specific period of time. Anyone can read it and see what was said. What is 1,00 yrs to God? Good for you. What did the church do in the Middle Ages? Trolling for a controversial reaction Flynn? Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Can you say Jimmy Swaggart? I love my husband and I dont want to be divorced, but when things have been unhappy between us, I have had to literally run away from sin because I was tempted to allow someone else to give me emotional support that should have come from my own husband, but wasnt at the time. Those who understood their own propensity, weakness and past personal sins and failures might be better off placing a hand over their mouths and silently praying for mercy to be extended to this man and his family. What about the husbands and children of the women you use just for kicks, so you dont get bored? I can see this except for one very big deal. Im not accusing, Im reporting. To err is humanto forgive..divine. Pastor Bob has always reminded his congregation that they should look to Christand not to man. Blessings on your search. A rich man has freedom to embrace the world. It took him completely by surprise and his first concern was for the church. I sincerely hope you will stop wasting your time on this blog, seeing each of for who we really are, a bunch of very failure ridden representatives of Jesus, just faking our way through every day and butchering this faith called Christianity. I like to know everyones sin here and blog about it. It's unclear how seriously they took the claim of the teenager whom New Times is not naming in accordance with our policy on reporting on victims of sexual abuse who said Coy had forced her to have sex even when she was only 4 years old. Then, on July 18, police arrested 41-year-old Roshad Thomas, who had spent 13 years as a volunteer youth pastor at Calvary Chapel Tallahassee. On April 3, 2014, Coy resigned as Senior Pastor of Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale. There are many adversaries to the life of a believer. Bob, in my opinion, respects people that challenge him because hes a competitive type of guy but bring your A game. Because the whole reason to deal with this kind of sin in the community is what it does to the community. To critics such as Newnham, there's only one reason to fight for a ruling like that: to hide from churchgoers the amount of cash the church gave Coy to go away. This my sister is a 4 part series for who ever your present Pastor is and I think this is the perfect time for all Pastors to pray about this teaching. I bet the line of women giving interviews is long and loud. Was God behind it? If so, how did He seek The Lord through study and prayer? Actually God assigned me to the task since that is the ministry He called me to. It's October 2017, and Bob Coy hunches over a laptop in a far corner of the Funky Biscuit, a dimly lit club in Mizner Park in Boca Raton. He didnt repent of his wrongdoings when he hurt children or their parents. He was forced to resign. ty10124 1 yr. ago. It took our family years to recover from his actions, and I guess this all just brings it back. We dont really know why God didnt send the Gospel message to most of humanity and we dont know why God doesnt make us sin no more when we are supposedly saved. Thats fair right? Power corrupts. Nobody handed him the keys, he built this church. "I was brought up in a very religious, traditional Midwestern home," he told Ed Stetzer, a Wheaton College professor, in a 2013 interview for a video series. If they were told that , it is no secret where they are. Donnyplease clean it up. Something wrong there. You sound like someone that isnt going to listen and repeat blindly without A deeper understanding, youre exactly what the body needs, I did not come to bring peace, but a sword Jesus. I have been stating 61 million. Im sure he was forced to leave and CC is doing everything they can to make sure that he will not be remembered. Everyone does that, just with different things. All over FB all the loyal supporters from his church are posting what I view as self-righteous comments. > Steve Wright, ( obviously a real person, one of the brave ones): as you correctly state, I am in fact a visitor, and apparently one arriving with nievte (relative to a newcomer).as you so poignantly state, caught in the wreckage Yours is the only post that reflects some of what I would expect/hope for amongst believers , (and for that I thank you i.e. Thoughts and prayers go out to a fallen brother, his wife and children, his church family and the church leadership as they determine the scriptural course of action. It is good if god wants to forgive, show grace and restore Bob Coy. When he made them laugh he had them. The 8-9 years I was there she was never around and hardly did any ministry. So do II just ate half a box of Chicken in a Biskit and have terrible indigestion. That seems to say that if you are have no power and authority then you wont cheat. He boasted of a vast media reach. Michael, you know that this thread is going to deteriorate. Shouldnt they as you say, be restorative? So my position is one of total sympathy for Diane and the kids.and I find myself frankly in the conflicted position due to personal experience of being totally pissed at Bob for his selfish actions, and at the same time praying for his relationship to be someday restored with first our Lord, and Diane, and his tragically innocent children. 2023 BuzzFeed, Inc. All rights reserved. Lorenzo, My lying mouth? Not at all, just speaking the truth of what some of these churches teach, many believers dont realize this until much later then its a lot harder to leave, better to know at the outset! I listened to it again and its as powerful as the first time we posted it. I found it accidentally on Google. God takes this specific sin very seriously as He allows for divorce when it takes place. This time, Smith and his son Jeff actually turned on their pastor, pushing him out. If this is all true theres a lot of lessons to learn here and maybe its time people started apologizing to Rick Warren who has demonized through the years. He can survive this and serve the Lord. His family is leaving. The detective told her that he couldn't destroy the files, but he closed the case that day. Time for restoration. Its as though the biblical gospel is not interesting or compelling enough; its as though the biblical gospel does not comport with increasingly American ideas of libertarianism, guns, stand your ground, etc. But that was a church that brought non-believers in by the busloads. So here is one for you. It is a real problem in the church as it is in the world. Isnt it cute when we call it moral failure. Amid that legal battle, the movement essentially split in half shortly after Smith's death. She and others back their words of welcome to you with their sincere words of prayer for you. I need to look up the verse, but I think its in Job where he talks about averting his eyes when the girls walk by. Yes, Praise God He has, but forgiveness does not always cancel consequences. And Ill be glad to talk with you via Skype, FaceTime, or in person about my comments if we ever happen to be close enough to each other. Of courseleave it to the Pharisees to fight amongst, not for, themselves. I am sure a church that size had plenty of people who did not attend last week as they likely miss from time to time. We arent saved by our actions, we arent saved by our morality, we arent saved by our correct doctrine. Im not doubting your passion for your convictions. Am I Chuck Smiths disciple? None of us are in a position to throw stones, judge, or cast aspersions upon or condemn himonly God can. Also some of these churches are teaching that there is no rapture but all the prophecies in Revelation have already been fulfilled, and that Nero was the antichrist, so theres a lot of sifting through garbage that you have to go through to find a good church! We are called to love and forgive. He's an engaging storyteller "somewhere between Billy Graham and Billy Crystal," the Miami Herald once suggested with an easy laugh and a voice that excitedly rises into high nasal registers. Seven is the perfect number: a week of years: a complete revolution of time accompanying a complete revolution in his state of mind. Jamieson, Fausset & Brown. After his preaching career ended, he landed work managing the Funky Biscuit, a nightclub in Mizner Park in Boca Raton. A few years back after leaving the church I found some old cassette tapes and his messages were less funny and more serious. Calvary was among the first churches in the nation to air podcasts, stream services online, and simulcast sermons at satellite campuses (the church had opened campuses in Plantation and Boca). Where did you ever get the idea that the millennium was to be disneyland?? daughter, Oh Beacon of Insight Perhaps, if thou deemest it, A Blog to Enlighten the teeming masses in darkness lost, misled, and disillusioned Might See and hear Truth from on High Truth from on Hugh coming straight and unvarnished from He and You. I think its cheap entertainment. As someone who has been a casualty of infidelity, such candor and humility helps to answer some of my own long unhealed hurts from that time. I have prayed mightily for Bob, Diane and their two teenage children and I have prayed for all the saints. It will take much longer possible years for healing with his family but it is worth it and will take work. The MLK trail transcript makes it clear from witness testimony that the MLK crime scene was barricaded by police within 2 minutes of King getting shot. What else do you claim to know better than Jesus. Just like Obama, Tiger Woods a womanizer a piece od scum ..he made his brother apologize in front of the congregation.where was he a coward with no backbone!! Why is that so hard? It just shows you cant answer me, so you put up a man who has been dead over 400 yrs and argue with him. I sincerely hope you prayed about this before you set out to broadcast it to the entire world. And pray with you for repentance! I want to see for myself. Not a witch hunt at all. Lol, they remind me of the dwarves in The Last Battle, who couldnt see the reality of Aslans return because they were so locked up in their dark world (help yourself to the symbolism there mr. Calvins disciple, plenty there for you)! Bob, Anons #472 is absolutely true. It hardly makes their convictions garbage.. What's wrong with the House of Bishops' proposed same-sex prayers? "I was living a life of sex, drugs, and rock 'n' roll, literally," Coy told Stetzer. Antonio. I have no idea if they were paid for , or what the arrangement was. Do you think the bottomless pit actually has a padlock? I have absolutely no sympathy for the adulterer. not to cast doubt on your reporting or professional abilities, but this is a serious allegation, and deserves all investigation and information gathering before any public news report is made regarding the particularities of Mr. Coys problemsand those should remain between he and his family in any event! It falsely teaches that a person must walk well enough to prove that they were saved. He attended machinist trade school and completed a three-year apprenticeship in machining. He is a human that, if I may point out, has transformed MANY MANY MANY lives over several years and has grown CCFL into an amazing place of worship. Its not pretty but I love them all because my eyes are not on man they are on The Man. I reacted in context of numerous other people who commented shortly before you who apparently excused Coys behavior or attacked people here for discussing the effects and ramifications of those choices. But peace to you anyways. @MartinLuthersdisciple I have no sympathy for the adulterer. The church should set a mechanism for those that dont know how to deal with their sin to discretely discuss it and decide how to move forward. Put away your golden calf and stop your man worship. In my opinion, if he did this [to one victim], it's just a question of how many others are out there. Therefore the discussion is pointless. Muhammad Ibn-Raqib : You are so right ! We gotta start getting this right. People who know what they are talking about get bored real fast. As Michael said, I care more about the victims than the victimize at this point. After the announcement, the congregation had a prayer and worship service. Dont worry I will come to you to bring my condolences! You have some serious issues. "Our pastor, he committed adultery with more than one woman. I know it is difficult to understand that something good will come from this. I know that Michael uses some strict criteria before he publishes. I still love pastor Bob. Its the 2nd & 3rd looks that are sin. Revelation is mixed with both things fulfilled and things unfolding. BTW, what gauge chain do you think it would take to bind satan? Thats worse than not knowing you are doing wrong. BE TRUTHFUL AND HONEST, OR YOULL NEVER EXPERIENCE TRUE HEALING! 20:3 and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, What kind of a pit will hold a non bodied being like Satan. You sound too often like a bored office worker that just likes to argue with people online. yup. What is the biblical model for dealing with leaders who blatently sin? Neither of them has shown their face since all this broke. really? How am I sure there are details? Is there a man here who would go over and console Coy at the expense of his sister. Can you please point me to the confession of these women? Anonymous #564. Michael, come on now. No sin overtakes us, except what is common to man. Something really big is going to come out soon. Coy sales millions and that has all changed. I have witnessed decades of the David example being taught by CC pastors to justify restoration of sexually sinning leaders. Be strong and have Faith.. Everyone loves u and repentance will heal..prayers to u and your family. MLD, no point in debating anything with you. (Judge Bailey didn't respond to messages from New Times to comment on this story.). OK, here is my Luther disagreement we have different tastes in beer. "If Calvary gives these pastors this much authority and they use and abuse it with no accountability, they have to blame themselves.". You will always have the tow the line soldier types and they have their place in the body as well but if you want to grow in any aspect of life spiritual or other wise seek out those you respect and let them help you to the next rung a person of good character will be happy to share their life experience to build you up, those that criticize have nothing to offer in the first place. John Macarthur has been teaching that one can take the Mark of the Beast and still be redeemed for more than 30 years. http://www.charismanews.com/us/43401-confessing-moral-failure-megachurch-pastor-bob-coy-resigns-calvary-chapel-fort-lauderdale, Ok, Ill just vent then.
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