Amazing people. The terminology is interchangeable, while there are cetainly differences in forms of slavery to say there was none is a tad rich, unless youve been an indentured servant yourself perhaps you know the benefits? Famous Doyles include writer and creator of Sherlock Holmes Arthur Conan Doyle, and novelist and screenwriter Roddy Doyle. Black Irish Books, publishing house of American author Steven Pressfield. Unless you know more about your name I would assume it association with immigrant Scottish planters and settlers of Northern Ireland, but it could have been adopted by some of the natives. Moore is another of the most popular Irish names. June 25, 1661. Although I reject the implications of these labels, for the sake of the argument and simplicity, Ill continue to use them. http://library.law.umn.edu/irishlaw/subjectlist.html, And this documentary shows the conditions of life for Irish catholics during that time. Most planters were multimilionaires by todays standards so purchasing thousands of enslaved blacks every 5 years to replaced the thousands who died from starvation, dehydration, disease, exposure, infection, brutality, suicide and mutilation was a minor expense. To keep it going. They either came to America as slaves, or moved to America in more modern times. The powers that be, have kept a lot of the truth where history covered up because, its all so ugly as well as in humane!!!!!!!! My ancestors were lucky to survive this part of history. The KKK was waning so they turned their hatred back to the Irish. O'Reilly 12. Indentured servitude was a form of bonded labour, whereby a migrant agreed to work for a set period of time (between two and seven years) and in return the cost of the voyage across the Atlantic was covered. What I will do is to remind you that GOD gave us all an ability that sets us apart from lower animals and that is the ability to reason, use common sense instead of instinct, as lower animals do. First, there was intermarriage in early America before slavery. Doyle Irish. And this is how blacks ended up with Irish last names. Perhaps I missed something in the text. I would love to know more, this has opened a window in my life. British politician, writer, and broadcaster Bryan Magee is one of the most well-known Magees. 4. The Origins of the Term 'Black Irish' The Irish rioted against the draft board in the 19th century, because war is horrible, and they were being forced into something that had nothing to do with. One of the most famous Duffys is rock musician Billy Duffy. Ben Frankin was indentured for a time to his own cousin. Black people with names with Mc in them likely acquired them in one of four ways: they could be descendants of slaves who were owned by an Irish or Scottish slaveowner. The truth is African-American is not your true nationality. Black slaves were the alternatives because they could bear these conditions, and also knew farming techniques which they carried with them to the New World. If you notice, there is nothing said at all about color in the constitution concerning slaves. The Europeans did not enslave Africans, they did not have to, Africans were already enslaved (they were prisoners of war) by more powerful Africans. While it at various stages was almost certainly used as an insult, the term "Black Irish" has emerged in recent times as a virtual badge of honor among some descendants of immigrants. Gallagher is one of the most common hereditary surnames in County Mayo. Another was the prevailing feeling among the Southern States that they were not being representing and that their votes didnt count. Prisoners whether for rebellion or minor offenses ended up in service. Jesus was born in the mid east, why do people believe that his hair is blond and straight, and have white skin, even hanging on the walls of black people, along with Martin Luther King, Malcolm x, John Kennedy. There really is no comparison! The mortality rate of enslaved Africans during the slave trade was so high that white planters had to replace entire popoulations of 30,000 plus people every 5-7 years. However, we do know that numerous Norman invaders did settle in Ireland and integrate into Irish society. Children of slaves were themselves slaves, which increased the size of the masters free workforce. Like, Im confused. Your email address will not be published. Rarely youll find them listed by age, gender and a first name NEVER A LAST NAME. Im reading these blogs and Im thinking to my self, what does this article have to do with irish slaves? The common Sullivan surname means "hawk-eyed" or "little dark-eyed one," derived from the Irish sildhubhn, from suil, meaning "eye" and dubh, meaning black. We need to revisit the discussion from a fresh perspective. OBrien has been a prominent surname in Ireland for centuries. Its now being used to paint the picture of white persecution and victimization and to deny historic institution racism in the US. But even also his own people as a mere result of the kind of things that happen when the wicked are in rule? 14 1 Fiona Hawkins Otherwise, I agree there needs to be some factual citations presented with the article. My family history is very interesting..anyway they cant sweep all this under the rug anymore thanks to documents of proof which are online for the world to see now!! The first slave owner in the colonies was Anthony Johnson, a black African. This may have some truth but how does this compare with Jim Crow and the continued racism experienced by Blacks in 2015? Famous people with this surname include singers James Brown and Chris Brown. Rarely youll find them listed by age, gender and a first name NEVER A LAST NAME. The most famous person with the surname Power is American film, stage, and radio actor Tyrone Power. Again, just a guess. Famous people with the surname Connolly include comedian Billy Connolly and musician Brian Connolly. I wish the writer had included some references. One last thing, the only person / historian if you can really call him that ,since he is really just a flippin Englishman from Ireland .really he is descended from English lords which is why he is on ten different websites promoting irish slavery is a myth. My grandmother had told me this when I was a little girl, If you come from a family who is of mixed race, and they know the old family school and is not afraid to tell you, cause this was known but your not suppose to talk about it..but I always knew cause of the red hair, but eyes and freckles..the freckles are a sure sign my grandma would say..I learned sp much from her said she wasnt allowed to talk are educate anyone of it, once my grandfather died she told everything..she was a Creole borne in Baton Rouge La. The term " black Irish " refers to persons of Irish descent who are supposed to be descendants of the Spanish Armada, which sailed around the middle of the 15th century, and had dark hair and or eyes. This is what I could find so far: No statistical reference to Ireland at least on Ancestry: They were shipped by the hundreds of thousands and included men, women, and even the youngest of children. Another 30,000 Irish men and women were also transported and sold to the highest bidder. Remember one thing and one thing only..irish slavery did happen in the Americas and in the West Indies! Maybe in a generalized way, but can never say for each individual. I wonder if the Irish will be told to get over it already the same way African Americans and Canadians are told. For example, I am irish and my name in Irish is Aine Maire OFallanhaim, but it was Anglicized to Ann Marie Fallon by the British. Although they did suffer as the Africans, they were also afforded certain privileges not afforded to African slaves. Black Irish - Who Were The Black Irish? - IrelandInformation.com It is a shallow attempt and more nonsense than anything. This fact is recorded in ancient China, Egypt and Mesopotamia. And he made a profit out of it. Doyle is one of the most common surnames in County Mayo. Protestant landholders? English journalist, author, and broadcaster Caitlin Moran is one of the most famous people called Moran. Example, the habitual practice of African slaves being thrown off ships in transit and subsequently drowned/murdered , so slave owners could claim insurance. They were also raped by their white captors and dealers while in the holding cells that lined the coasts of Africa. Black Dutch (genealogy) Black Dutch is a term with several different meanings in United States dialect and slang. Where they were made to feel unwelcome, they headed for the hills, which is why we have the Appalachian populations, and others like them, populating those hills to this day. A quick review of Irish history reveals that the island was subject to a number of influxes of foreign people. Learn more. Judging history, or whole groups of people through myopic glasses is not only intellectually dishonest but harmful in the modern practice of superimposing everything over the wrongs of the past. 8. Some aspects of racism are religious others are cultural but in most cases have nothing to do with something as simple as skin color and are definitely not limited to Blacks. And so on.., http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-stolen-village-des-ekin/1113681635?ean=9781847174314#productInfoTabs. I have about 3 lines of my family in which this happened.. Nevertheless, from research, it appears the most likely reason for this term in Irish culture is to describe an intent as dark invaders or black foreigners of the Irish country. Irish heritage at this point is one of many battles won and lost. Moonshine? Im curious to know how/why the Irish slaves were able to keep their Irish last names?Traditionally slaves had to take on their owners last name. Otherwise, there would not have been near as many who immigrated, as well as died of starvation and disease, during the Great Potato Famine as there simply wouldnt have been that many left! Horrific story, and the things the Irish went through shouldnt be forgotten. So ledgers are a great place to start, but the the ending point. FYI: Themselves need not be hyphenated by the way just saying. In this decade, 52,000 Irish (mostly women and children) were sold to Barbados and Virginia. I think you should be careful in your condemnation of what you apparently arent aware of, Gaelic Catholic culture of Ireland was subjected to English Protestant Supremacy, and Penal Laws imposed by the English Parliamentarian Cromwell in his brutal conquest of Ireland saw to it that the Gaelic Catholic culture be prohibited. Doran Irish. Most blacks who lived on plantations did not have last names. Whole towns disappeared into the MIddle East and North Africa as a result. Other aspects of racism and bigotry are far too complicated to touch on here. I assume many of the ones the worked side by side with the Irish slaves used their last name in hopes of not being made to take the slave owners name. This is not a race issue! Personally, I am offended not by the story and the facts, but by the dishonest comparison. The more I think about this article, the sadder I become knowing that most of you believe its lies. .Ireland Scotland Wales ..even babies. I am a Kyle from Scotland I am scotch-Irish they were indentured servants and free men. slavery is not in the past. Australian model and actor Julian MacMahon is one of the most famous MacMahons. But animals of higher value are often treated better than less. The Vikings bestowed upon themselves the title of the dark invaders or black foreigners. Its my understanding that there are still people enslaved, although it is done secretly, and/or the laws are manipulated to accommodate itbut its still happening, yet today. My theory contrary to the hypotheses here is America has made any skin color not light or white a lower lifeforms hence Irish are white Im I wrong. Such a great read! As far as calling them slaves for working while serving their sentence (BS). They were INDENTURED SERVANTS as were the very first Africans brought to the colonies that became the USA which meant 1) they entered a voluntary agreement to exchange their time for passage to the USA or for some type of apprenticeship or training, 2) after a period of time their SERVICE ended usually about 7 years. Widespread and woven into many different cultures around the globe, Irish surnames are ever-present today. Most of these people in america are full of hate poisoned by their governments through their food, water and air. Thanks 4 Sharing I Got My DNA I have 21% Irish blood and My last Name is Sharp its good 2 know but its still so much hatred in the world.!! http://www.academia.edu/9475964/The_Myth_of_Irish_Slaves_in_the_Colonie This story has been circulated amongst white supremacist sites and through social media, has found its way into mainstream conservative consciousness. They served for an agreed amount of time (usually seven years), the agreements were not always honored. O'Neill 11. [5] It is the masculine version of the name Ciara . I never learned the whole story of how though unrelated, both husbands had the same Irish surname. Nor do I expect people will understand who the English landlords (a.k.a. The only major distinction was that these slaves were not being exported outside of their continent likened unto cargo as they were in the African Slave trade. It was common in the 1600s for the Irish prefixes O and Mac to be dropped from Irish names. Schools should teach more about this stuff, because its part of a neighbouring history which may not be NOT told. African Americans where emancipated because they needed it. On December 21, 1988 Jesse Jackson and a group of other black "leaders" officialy declared their support for the term 'African American'. In fact, many Norman invasion families grew to amend their family names (surnames) to reflect this. Conclusion: With regard to the article. This article attempts to make little of the term, indentured servitude, but the term has legal and Biblical definitions that give it limitations. Irish actress Katie McGrath is one of the most famous McGraths. I enjoy being educated, there is so much to learn that I wish our young people were taught, so they would love instead of hating each other. "How Blacks have Irish Last Names" - Tribeca Chronicles Famous Kennedys include 35th president of the United States John F. Kennedy and his family. The slave trade was/is not a race issue, its a humanitarian one. Irish version of McFadden = MacPidn, Irish version of McDonald = MacDhmhnaill. Chances are, you can find her drinking coffee in some hidden gem cafe in Dublin, planning her next big trip. Theyll come up with terms like Indentured Servants to describe what occurred to the Irish. 2) Even if it were 100,000 of them (which it wasnt) , it is already documented that many of them were indentured servants-not slaves and theres a huge difference! Its really amazing to see once you notice it. There were three waves of Irish immigration to America, the 17th century Irish slaves described above, the 18th century Irish immigrants who settled along the Appalachian frontier and were shepherded by Presbyterian ministers because Catholic priests had a 5 pound bounty on their heads, and the mostly Catholic 19th century immigrants who settled in cities and took over the Democrat Party. The majority of Irish did not immigrate till after the close of the atlantic slave trade, and towards the civil war, or until the opening of the 20th century. However, most Blacks in the USA dont have to deal with slavery. Truth is, there was and is a huge ethnic and national diversity in Africa, and between those groups some had conquered others. Ryan 9. Or the African names were difficult to pronounce and not common to them so they gave them a name that was easier? Today, there are many different variations of Irish surnames, but most commonly, they can be divided into three categories. Actress Betty White is one of the most famous people with this surname. Condem slavery not the people trying to highlight history. I have a very Irish last nameMurphy, enjoy and thanks for sharing Konnetta! Examples of famous Stewarts include actress Kristen Stewart, actor Patrick Stewart, and musician Rod Stewart, among many others. Have you met Jesus . The Celtsarrived on the island about the year 500 B.C. ("Defeat of the Spanish Armada", painted by Philip James de Loutherbourg). (no scotch-irish has no irish blood in them at all,they are descendants of Scotland and England whom were given land in Northern Ireland by the English crown..they kicked out and burnt down real irish villages to establish their land in the north with the backing, again of the crown!!!!! 250 years you say? It started with a video of the Black Irish of Montserrat. i.e. There are still people living under those conditions, especially in AfricaSierra Leone, for example. No, most of them could not read most of them did not know what was going on beyond a three block radius. Copyright 2023 Irish Studio LLC All rights reserved. From there I started seeing more videos and posts speaking on Irish slavery. Omg. I dont expect people to spot the difference between the Scottish Planters who shared Gaelic names and were approved to move into Ireland and take the land to quell the natives. True Irish (native non-protestants) were not even allowed to own property in Ireland until the early 1800s. Spreading these values will end modern slavery, and help us make the entire history of slavery a thing of the past. This was a passage from the book noted above. Well my last name is carmickle. They came as slaves; vast human cargo transported on tall British ships bound for the Americas. As poor people in the same boat, yes there were relationships, marriages etc. But it seems that your fellow Irish forgot both about the atrocities done to them and working side by side with African slaves. Keeping their Irish surnames would help to differentiate the two groups. Ryan is another popular Irish family name across the world. Adam and Eves bloodline was where JESUS came through, if people only knew this all this hatred for each other skin color would not exist. Its like saying, Im personally offended by you not because of your genetics but because of your race!. The Irish may have been treated like shit way back when, but nobody sold even one of them. Not just the Irish. What I will do is to remind you that GOD gave us all an ability that sets us apart from lower animals and that is the ability to reason, use common sense instead of instinct, as lower animals do. Where they not forced to build railroads and gassed and burned in ovens? in order to be enslaved it didnt matter whether you were Irish, English, Welsh, Scots, Black, White. They account for a lot of the Irish sounding names in the south, whether they were Scots names, or co opted Irish names, they do not belong to the Irish family system. Its a human one! Abraham Agan Agnew Ahearn Ahern Aherne Anglim Anglin Ansbro Argue Armstrong Art Ashe Athey Athy Baldwin Balfe Ballagh Bane Banfield Banfill The terminology is important, which has been duly noted and exaggerated on both ends of the discussion. It did not begin that way even for Blacks/Africans. Leo Whelan was an acclaimed Irish portrait painter. Whereas once the Irish people mainly spoke Irish (Gaelic/Gaeilge) the indigenous language English is now the primary language. good response Gary for putting a Blog into perspective. The surname may be your first clue to mixed-blood heritage.
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