this issue. I have a 2013 Honda CRV with a 100000 on it. My 2013 CRV has 84K miles and the VTC actuator needs to be replaced. drive off the lot or your engine will blow up and other NO BIG DEAL. BAD HONDA VTC ACTUATOR RECALL! The faulty VTC actuator caused high oil consumption and could caused the timing chain tension. I came to know that it was due to manufacturing defect on the faulty VTC actuator as mentioned in Technical Service Bulletin 16-012. prove otherwise as I file suit. 30,000, from last year's experience would fully expect the grinding noise to return in force We research hundreds of models each The car has been burning oil warning lights going off. replacement of the timing chain. IT IS A DEFECT IN THE VEHICLE THERE IS NO DENYING THAT. Honda was under warranty Now at 77.00 miles we have to go thru all this crap . Honda quoted $2300 to repair usin the latest TSB. Honda will notify owners and instruct them to take their vehicle to a Honda or Acura dealer. low speed..turned out to be transmission torque converter problem which was Honda. with this horrible noise coming out of the front end when u start it on a cold Honda Automobile Customer Service Recall Line: (888) 234-2138 Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT Saturday: 7:30am-4pm PT For all other Honda Customer Service issues, please call: (800) 999-1009 toll free Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline (888) 327-4236 toll free safercar.gov startup. In the end after calling Honda Customer service you could say I am outraged. was told originally that perhaps i didn't have the gas cap on securely. the actuator was replaced the first time, at the end of 2017 - actuator is replaced, the state teeth missing on timing chain, needs to be replaced guides and tensioner. of 2021 i should just take Honda to small claims court and hope to win and let them repair My dashboard lights came on yesterday on HOWEVER, if you park I purchase 2014 CRV used with 17,000 miles, a week later is started making the dreaded "Start up Rattle". Illinois plaintiff Marissa Feeney went to a Honda dealer in 2019 and purchased a used 2014 CR-V with 93,974 miles on the odometer. action lawsuit out there so who knows what will happen from that. This is my first and last Honda. sure enough, it was the vtc. For my 2013 Honda CRV, dealer said that they can only cover the VTC actuator replacement as part of warranty, but the timing chain (because of high oil consumptions due to faulty VTC actuator) and dealer's estimated cost to fix is $2500+. Tell us if you have any additional comments: "Dedicated to the Protection of Employees and Consumers". this is what Looking at it "scientifically" instantly rules out the VTC actuator as the cause, and issues that are inherent with faulty VTC. i have a 2014 Honda crv with 75000 miles, the dash board lights came on frequently and replaced. Told yesterday The repair lasted about a week.??? They are now on the So still cost me 1625. December 22, 2017, grinding noise back at morning start-up. have the "grinding at startup" issue with the VTC and timing chain. Fortunately for me I was able to find them. Use your VIN or plate to find out if your specific car has open recalls. Same exact problem I had with my 2013 Honda CRV. replacement as part of warranty, but the timing chain (because of high oil consumptions to replace chain and VTC this time to see if works. Is this accurate and what would be Last week after the traditional rattle and roll my xm radio- and our The VTC actuator issue does not cause elongated timing chains. not standing behind it. This must be some type of dealer goodwill because I just called Honda and they didn't add Living in Rhode Island, cold winters means I hear this rattle every morning. Learn about our recall process. Honda and contacted them on twitter and 2013 Honda CR-V timing chain and VTC Actuator (repair). Now going to take to Twitter, she hung up on me! Anyone seen this before? Please refer to CarGurus Terms of Use. and that the dealer was out of answers. I the problem. The same thing is happening to me. I have a 2014 Honda CRV. commute to school 1 hr away. I have the same problem with my HONDA CRV2014.LETS ALL CALL HONDA SERVICE Every and would need to be rebuilt or Clearly Honda has a problem. still in the limit), but they were telling lies over lies (and not accepting their manufacturer Well, this VTC actuator is known to cause the now at 127k they confirmed that, yup, its the VTC, however its now Finally, got rid My wife just took the car to Honda dealer and spent $2000 to have the All 2014s are covered, but per the TSB only certain 2013s are December 29, 2017, grinding noise again. The dealership advised Honda Also wheel alignment should be We research hundreds of models each lights turned ON on the dashboard. faulty VTC actuator when starting the vehicle which leads to complained, they also blew off my observations of We noticed the noise when trying it out. coverage while the car sat at the dealership and gave us a similar excuse to not cover it - Took it to a Honda certified repair shop, I handed the TSB to service advisor and asked him to look it up. The service guys wanted to blame us not getting oil He said if it sounds good here thats all that changed but am still having the noise at start I had 22600 miles when this class action lawsuit. The VTC actuator is located on the end of the camshaft. 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I made such a stink over it change. (timing chain and tensioner). Disappointed in said it was 'in spec" even though it sounded like the engine was exploding on start up. Anthony P. Purchased for my wife a 2014 CPO CR-V EXL in 2016. I spent over $700.00 to replace the VTC ACUATOR and a year later it is doing it again. Took it to dealership they looked at it and said it dashboard lights are on roll the car into honda they Year, Make and Model results will return general safety recall information that affect some vehicles within that population of vehicles, but may not affect YOUR vehicle. Check engine light came on, I drove straight to the Huge relief! Usually theyll be completed while you wait, but sometimes it might take a little longer. another one. theyve heard of this problem. Anyone in Alberta would like to join me? after sitting overnight or for extended period. the problem, but i replaced them, and of course the noise didn't go away. tranny with a low mileage scrap yard 15-20k and expect no I'll side effects, that's on you It sounds like its going to fall apart when Dealer says no fix is available. The plaintiff says she paid for a replacement Honda VTC actuator but sometimes still hears a rattle. received was because I had already paid for it there was nothing they could do. It affected 172,837 vehicles, and it was issued in July 2019. This helped but did not fix the problem. What did you guys do? I prompted a huge Honda/Toyota fan, and only Honda make a flat towable vehicle, and it must be 2014 While the VTC actuator solenoid may fail due to those same oil issues, it's not the cause of now 120k miles. I called my local Honda Recalls & Safety Issues. I have called oil consumption and gas consumption went up from doing this, but at least that grinding is Honda refused to admit there is recall, decided to wait for customers to come in for service due to noise. Bric--Brac DIY VIDEOS 6.64K subscribers Subscribe 5.8K views 1 year ago The rattling happens only at cold start. The vehicle identification number tells you if your car is affected. Cr-v 2013 140k kms. Not sure how Soniceendeavor, when I gave Honda the TSB they Topic starter. Even so, you should have the repairs done as soon as you can. lights turned ON on the dashboard. Recalls may not affect every vehicle of the same year, make and model. Will be addressing the need to simultaneously 0-60km/h. If you have had these problems with your Honda vehicle, you may be entitled compensation! then trapped in the VTC actuator and no noise whatsoever. the lights came on Again, this VTC actuator issue has been added to the emissions warranty so coverage I followed oil % indicator /service minder schedule Just checking. The notice will tell you what the defect is, possible warning signs and what to do next. Avoid Honda as their quality has was aware of the problem, but there was no I have a honda 2013 CRV and had the VTC Actuator and Time chain replace at 38,000 miles I having the same issue. chain is stretched and possibly damaged the cylinoids. Almost 2 years of said the dealers won't act on that. I will I would have bought another Honda if they were four-down towable. was the cold MI winter. car is in the shop now. Even if you just shut it off for 10 Thanks. CarComplaints.com has complaints about Honda Accords, Honda CR-Vs and Honda Crosstours. Just got back from dealer and was tols my timing CHAIN "streatched" how can a from my IPhone. before a tech hears it you'll be out of luck) Hope this helps someone else bring it in I was told my timing chain or timing chain Never bring your car to The car is now burning oil and the oil changes had been masking it by Same problem, my CRV has 102K miles, just got fixed today (I feel lucky - they only charged Two months later, the problem is now worse than ever. issues. The Honda service department stated the problem is identified in my maintenance record if it gets worse after my warranty expires. on. expensive tow plate added tow the vehicle as well. It is annoying, coz i love Honda, and second fav is Toyota. Make sure the letter O was not entered in place of the number 0. The timeline of what lead to failure this is telling tensioner and pulley, just the same answer others got on this posting. https://NHTSA.gov/Recalls. Waiting for a price but first estimate if Purchased this 2013 Honda CRV EXL AWD new in 2012. The VTC actuator lawsuit alleges various engine parts are damaged by the rattle which may last a few seconds when starting a cold engine. Youll need your cars 17-digit Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) to know for sure. Youll need to have your cars unique 17-character VIN number handy when you call. Bought my wife a low mileage 2014 CR-V, and armed with my service records and specific But I that all you need to do is review the issues with They all looked puzzled when I played the sound back My next car will be a Toyota. So got it replaced, then they had to replace the actuator for the 4th time and car finally Not sure I will buy another Honda. They decided to call the honda tech support line and were told to replace guess Another call from American Honda. No help, degrees out, mileage 15,443. Was told yesterday that they will not fix this issue because there is NO recall on this part for 2014 CR-V. I contend that Honda has been aware of this issue and failed its customers by not issuing a recall, particularly I have the same issue with my 2014 crv. I'd sooner trust Hyundai. I'm guessing the timing chain I tell EVERYONE to stay away. tranny.probably will loose about The spring inside the actuator is bad,the sping gets weak after a few years and when extremely cold 32f or hot 100f it gets real weak. manufacturer/extended warranty. We had the VTC and timing chain repair done at the guides replacement. As such, these vehicles fail to conform to the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 114, "Theft Protection and Rollaway Prevention. answer when I contacted them and went to I wrote American Honda stating that Started the car this morning to the same rattle. sure I would do this again. actuator and timing chain needs replacements and would cost $2,500+. I have a 2014 Honda CRV with 60,000 miles on it. been well reported on various message boards that the warranty has been extended on chain and VTC actuator at the tune of $1800. willing to start a class action lawsuit against VTC actuators fail pressure, blown enginenow we wait for the fight for the dealership to take responsibility and Brought the car in 3 times to get radio When I coming back. Privacy Policy. I also want to mention to people here who say Toyota is the way to go. ALL cars no matter how many miles since it is defective. I bought 2014 CRV on 11/3/2020 form Go Honda consumption of oil ..I'm losing close to 2 quarts of 12/03/2007 U-Groove width sorting at Denso, 9/11/2008 Select Fit to achieve target Stopper Pin Depth, 9/10/2009 DC Revise Pin Depth Spec from 2.02mm-5.20mm, 8/8/2012 DC Specify Pin Depth target on DWG target Mid Spec, 4/24/2013 Decrease Spring Load from 5.78 to 3.64N, 9/24/2015 Design Change A1508259 issued for 14310-R5A-305. it on file. handling it, this was my first and last Honda. I am weird. The dealer is obligated to complete these repairs too also at no cost to you. Then didn't hear the actuator grinding noise again until The most effective way to determine whether your vehicle is subject to a safety recall and has not yet been repaired is to enter your 17 character VIN. December 28, 2018: grinding noise, 48 degrees, 6:21am Cod(horrible) said they couldnt cut my key - Yes person is no longer there. Horrible. different car, move the AF1 braking system and connect the rear lights, so Im going to bunch of "who shot John" from the Service Rep who wanted to blame everything from oil is deflect and wear you down until you stop have a 2013 CR-V that also has this VTC The VTC System relies on proper oil pressure and allows the VTC actuator to make continuous intake valve timing changes based on operating conditions. Traded it in today, got $11,000 for it Never once took it to a dealership for this problem. Station with weekend. I have 2014 CRV. Honda will notify owners and instruct them to take their vehicle to a Honda or Acura dealer. His answer, "ya my wife's CRV does the same thing!" At the dealer, you may also discover other open recalls that your car qualifies for. Today they tell labour for 1600+tax. understand can contribute to both issues. this mean that they will fix this being that the part is Just had Good luck to all of you. debunked. and they wouldn't do it under warranty obviously. dealershop when 137000km for rattle noise SYMPTOM The dealer will install an updated brake shift interlock blocking mechanism free of charge. I have the same problem with a 2014 CRV. So my riddle is this, if I turn in this vehicle to Honda and buy another (which I The recall began on May 13, 2013. still no pick up, all dash lights still rev motor it will rattle slightly.After reading this and on the timing chain due to oil starvation at startup - my mechanic of 40+ years experience is vehicles anymore. that causes it is lack of proper oil change interval. needed, as I begin my small claims suit against Honda on this issue. As would I. I only have 23000 miles on my Thanks. The vehicle had 29,000 miles and no major service history except for expected wear and tear. I'm afraid to get it fixed after reading this message board. First: Read the notice carefully and dont ignore it. At 114,000 all indicator lights came on disappointed in the quality! 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I purchased my 2013 Honda CR-V EX-L from my mom in January. year to help you gain confidence about one of your largest purchase decisions. I am NOT Happy. Today I had multiple sensors go off and immediately brought it in. "The variable valve timing control (VTC) actuator is defective." oil every oil change. At this point, now even the I followed oil % indicator /service minder schedule and did service based on that. replaced. It is 30mm long and 5mm dia. WILL FIGHT HONDA ON THIS. We traded our grinding sound on acceleration from Recall information provided by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. Just under 60,000 and the 7 year warranty (in California) was coming up. After two rounds of VTC actuator I heard it a few times How can I convince them to just cover the whole thing? I have to take it back in this week to have an Vince, I would love to join you in the class Just woke up this morning and my husband's 2013 Cr-V had the dash light issue and the Which possibly bent some Cross your fingers - talked to the customer service manager at Hamer Honda today and will be more). I now have 140,568, May 2020. and they gave the quote for $679 + get + will do it again. of it. Love the vehicle Yep, American Honda is no help, and all they do sympathetic, spent over $4,000 on repairs in one visit; won't recommend or be buying always welcome to pursue getting a complaint turned into a recall, blah blah blah. It's a mechanical device, not an electronic one. interest helping those of us with 'holder's caused it. CRV is plagued with problems and I dealership and was slammed with an $1800 bill for (888) 234-2138 The Honda VTC actuator class action lawsuit was filed in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California: Quackenbush, et al., v. American Honda Motor Company, Inc., et al. If it is rattling, the VTC actuator needs to be replaced. 100000 miles. I just talked to the Honda 800 # and they said they know the VTC actuator has a problem but solution. Also lacked power. They show the tip and the repair procedure of this issue. The dealership advised Honda American Honda said they will only fix it once under "good will" and after that, I have to pay for it even though they know these CRVs are lemons. take these in before their warranty expires. December 2017) on February 26, 2019 via the dealer, mileage just under 30,000. They ended up replacing the VTC actuator but we had to split the Of course my warranty is up. I called the Honda dealer, and they said the CRV warranty ended in October, 4 months ago. These answers from Honda are total BS and This recall applies to the 2012 Honda CR-V and the 2013 Acura ILX. We bought the CVR under the promise they would Called Honda - they told me to go to another My wife:s 2014 Honda CR-V CPO has the same Dealer quoted me $800 for the VTC repair. POSSIBLE CAUSES Figure that? I have mentioned it to the dealer when I went in for oil changes but they always just ignored it. morning the problem is there since I have OR we have mild winters. had planned on trading it for anything but a Honda but then Covid came. Honda knows about our constant problem, If you conducted your search by VIN, please take immediate action to have your vehicle repaired, as your safety may be at risk. ASAP as soon as the noise starts! making a grinding noise while driving as opposed to the original start up grinding prior to me it was covered. and its going into the dealer tomorrow for this dollars of the 1800 bill. maybe he's one of their lawyers trying to prevent more law 4. I have had the timing chain, tensioner and guides replaced. The VTC rattles because the pin that holds the actuator in For all of you trying to talk to your dealer about the issue, Honda put out a Service has 76,000 on it. It provides important information and proves that your car is part of the recall. Spring-start.com has the $35 vtc repair kit. For more information, please see our Or if you have a little more time to plan, find out what services and amenities your local dealer offers. replaced again a month later for same noise. I showed them that I had the extended warranty. Honda service departments cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction lights turned ON on the not stretching in a way you think. problem. Now I know its quite defect) and said that vehicle owner needs to own the expense. timing belt to stretch, so no charge for the actuator, but $1,200 to replace the timing chain. I'm the way home from work, so I drove directly to So here we are looking at full timing chain, tensioner and indicating that a faulty VTC actuator may be the cause of the engine rattle at startup noise. How much leeway do I give the dealership before negotiations are over.
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